‘If you could see our faces’ Hartley-Brewer rages at Justice Secretary over London Bridge


JULIA HARTLEY-BREWER slammed Justice Secretary Robert Buckland for his response to the London Bridge terror attack.

Ms Hartley-Brewer grilled the Conservative on why people convicted of terrorism offences are not sentenced more severely. She also pointed to the arrest of Nazam Hussain, a previous accomplice of Usman Khan, as proof not enough is being done to monitor convicted terrorists once they’re released.   

The talkRADIO host said: “One of those, one of the nine who had been arrested including Usman Khan and convicted in 2012 for terrorist offences, Nazam Hussain, he has now been arrested on suspicion of preparing terrorist attacks.

“The fact that the day after a terrorist attack that this man can be arrested on suspicion of preparing terrorist attacks suggests that if he had already been under a level of supervision that would have actually found that there was enough evidence to make that arrest suggests that he hasn’t been supervised properly. 

“So when I put to you Mr Buckland that you had to wait for two young people to be killed before the action was taken, I was correct, wasn’t I?

“Because if you hadn’t waited for that we wouldn’t of known, either this man would have already been arrested or this man would never have been identified as someone who is preparing a terrorist attack.”

Mr Buckland replied: “It is easy for me try and speculate on what might and might not have happened, what is going on though is a review into all these cases and I can say looking at the list of restrictions on people’s licenses who have committed this sort of offence they are lengthy and comprehensive and that a lot of resources are put into regular meetings with these individuals.”

Ms Hartley-Brewer responded: “Well, that has worked well, hasn’t it?

“If you could of seen the faces of everyone in the studio when you just said that.

“Everyone just looked up and smiled at me and I think that is the reaction of my listener right now and that is the reaction of millions of people around the country that do just not accept this idea that we should be all nicey-nicey and try to be understanding about people who want to kill us on our streets.”

A vigil was held on Monday to pay tribute to the victims of the London Bridge terror attack and to honour the emergency services and members of the public who responded to the incident.

Former University of Cambridge students Saskia Jones, 23, and Jack Merritt, 25, were fatally stabbed by 28-year-old convicted terrorist Usman Khan during a prisoner rehabilitation event they were both supporting.

The attack has prompted the Ministry of Justice to review the licence conditions of every convicted terrorist released from prison, which Prime Minister Boris Johnson said was “probably about 74” people.

The Justice Secretary said any of the individuals concerned who was found to be in breach of their licence conditions would be recalled to prison.

“I will be meeting my officials this morning to satisfy myself about not only those cases, but also people who are about to be released and also a wider group who weren’t convicted of terrorism offences but who present an extremist risk in the prison system,” he told the BBC.

Mr Buckland said an order had already been issued preventing prisoners on early release attending events such as that where Khan carried out his attack.

Mr Johnson has vowed to take steps to ensure people are not released early when they commit serious offences.

In a tweet on Sunday evening, Jack Merritt’s father David said: “Don’t use my son’s death, and his and his colleague’s photos – to promote your vile propaganda.

“Jack stood against everything you stand for – hatred, division, ignorance.”


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